Does the Spirit proceed from the Son?
Every party reads the same texts. Jesus promises "the Helper, … whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father" (John 15:26), and "if I go, I will send him to you" (John 16:7). Paul writes that "God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts" (Galatians 4:6), and calls him "the Spirit of Christ" (Romans 8:9). Peter says of the risen Jesus that, "having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing" (Acts 2:33).
From these texts LST draws one conclusion and declines a second. "These texts
establish a real relation of the Spirit to both Father and Son"
(lstCase_establishes). "They do not state that the Spirit's eternal origin is
'from the Father and the Son' rather than 'from the Father through the Son.'"
Put in the library's terms, the second claim is that the question is
independent of the texts: granted only them, the Filioque ("and the Son")
neither follows nor fails (texts_leave_the_filioque_open). Both claims hold.
The check sets "and the Son" against "from the Father alone", Photius's
position. The alternative LST names, "through the Son", is not yet a position
here. So the result shows that the texts leave the Filioque open. It does not
yet show that they leave open the choice between LST's two formulas.
What the West adds
Thomas Aquinas states the objection himself: "in the Sacred Scripture we are not
told that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Son; but only that He proceeds from
the Father, as appears from John 15:26" (Summa I, q. 36, a. 2, objection 1).
His answer is that "although we do not find it verbally expressed in Holy
Scripture that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Son, still we do find it in the
sense of Scripture, especially where the Son says, speaking of the Holy Ghost,
'He will glorify Me, because He shall receive of Mine' (John 16:14)". So the
Western case starts from a verse LST does not cite. Adding it changes nothing
about what the texts settle (john16_14_leaves_it_open_too): the Western case
needs a reading of the verse, not the verse alone.
The Western case runs on three lines, each with a reading of its own. The first
reads John 16:14: what the Spirit takes from the Son is his being, not only
what he declares. The second reads the Son's sending: it rests on an eternal
relation of the Spirit to the Son, and in God, Aquinas argues, "there cannot be
… any relations opposed to each other, except relations of origin". The third is
Aquinas's argument from distinction: "if He were not from Him, He could in no wise be personally
distinguished from Him", because the persons are told apart only by opposed
relations of origin, and the Son is not from the Spirit, "which no one says".
The Western position delivers "and the Son" (westernCase_establishes), and
any one of its three lines would do. So no single reading is load-bearing,
meaning that taking it away would make the case fail
(western_rests_on_no_one_reading). Take away all three readings that divide
the sides, and what is left (the texts, John 16:14, and the distinction of Son
and Spirit that every party grants) does not reach the Filioque
(western_needs_one_of_its_readings).
What the East adds
Kallistos Ware gives the Eastern case in a sentence: "An eternal procession of
the Spirit from the Father alone, a temporal mission from the Son: such was the
position upheld by St Photius against the west" (The Orthodox Church). Photius
argued on two lines. The first is from the Lord's own words: Jesus names the
Father as the one the Spirit proceeds from, and what he did not add may not be
added. The second is the monarchy of the Father: within the Godhead the
Father is the one cause of the Son and of the Spirit. The Eastern position delivers "not from the
Son" (easternCase_establishes), and either line would do, so neither reading
is load-bearing (eastern_rests_on_no_one_reading). Take both away and the texts are left, even
with John 15:26 read as eternal origin, and they do not exclude the Filioque
(eastern_needs_one_of_its_readings).
LST adds a further point: the texts do not "by themselves settle whether John
15:26 is speaking directly of eternal origin or of the Spirit's mission". That
holds too (texts_leave_john15_26_open), and there is a reader on each side:
B. F. Westcott read the verse as "the temporal mission of the Holy Spirit, and
not … the eternal Procession". But Aquinas and Photius both read it as eternal
origin, so this is not where they divide.
What this does not claim
It does not say which side is right. Every reading that divides them is rated
disputed, because each side rejects the other's. Nor does either side have
every argument it makes here. The West's pairing of John 16:14 with 16:15, "All
that the Father has is mine", and Florence's reason that the Father gave the
Son everything "except to be the Father", are not encoded. Neither is the whole
of Photius's argument from the monarchy: that a property not common to all
three persons belongs to one alone, so that if causing the Spirit belonged to
the Father and the Son, either there would be two causes or the two persons
would merge. It does not encode the "from
the Father through the Son" (διὰ τοῦ Υἱοῦ) of the Greek fathers as a party of
its own. The Council of Florence declared that the phrase "bears the sense that
thereby also the Son should be signified, according to the Greeks indeed as
cause, and according to the Latins as principle of the subsistence of the holy
Spirit, just like the Father". An Orthodox reader denies that it does. That
third position is the next to add.
Nor does it settle what "proceeds" means. The Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity (1995) grants the Eastern grounds almost word for word, calling the Father "the sole Trinitarian Cause (Aitia) or principle (principium) of the Son and the Holy Spirit", and still confesses the Filioque. It reads the Greek ἐκπόρευσις as origin from the Father alone and the Latin processio as a wider word, which can be from the Son. If that distinction holds, the two conclusions here may not contradict each other at all. Testing that means reading "the Spirit proceeds from the Son" both ways and answering each reading, and it is not yet done.
How this is checked
The positions, steps and results behind this chapter, each with the formula or the Lean that checks it
The texts, and what they establish
The texts LST cites.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
From the texts to a real relation between the Spirit and the Son: he is sent by the Son, named for him, and poured out by him.
- \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
relationLine — The texts: the Spirit sent by the Son and named for him
What the texts establish, on LST's reading and on every party's: the Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — at issue: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
lstCase — The texts: the Spirit sent by the Son and named for him
LST's position: the texts, and the relation they establish. Every premise is a text, cited to Scripture alone, which is the point: this is what the texts establish by themselves.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — at issue: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out.
lstWithAquinassVerse — The texts: the Spirit sent by the Son and named for him
LST's texts, with the verse Aquinas rests on added: John 16:14, "he will take what is mine".
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (6) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — at issue: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out, John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it.
The Western case
From John 16:14: the Spirit takes what is the Son's, and what he takes is his being.
- \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — would give: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
receivingLine — From "he will take what is mine" (Aquinas)
The Western line from John 16:14.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}\) — In John 16:14 what the Spirit takes from the Son is his being, not only his word
- (3) \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
From mission to origin: the Son sends the Spirit, the Spirit is named for him, and the sending rests on an eternal relation of the Spirit to the Son, which in God, Aquinas holds, can only be a relation of origin.
- \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — would give: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
missionLine — From mission to origin (Aquinas)
The Western line from mission.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}\) — The Son's sending of the Spirit rests on an eternal relation of Spirit to Son
- (2) \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
From opposed relations: the Son and the Spirit are distinct, only an opposed relation of origin distinguishes divine persons, and the Son is not from the Spirit.
- \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — would give: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
oppositionLine — From the distinction of Son and Spirit (Aquinas)
The Western line from distinction. Aquinas allows the other order too ("either the Son is from the Holy Ghost; which no one says; or that the Holy Ghost is from the Son"), and sets it aside because no one holds it. The line writes that premise in.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}}\) — John 14:16 — the Son and the Spirit are two persons: "another Helper"
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}}\) — The divine persons are distinguished only by opposed relations of origin
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}\) — The Son is not from the Spirit: "which no one says"
- (4) \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
westernCase — From the Father and the Son (Aquinas; Florence; Westminster)
The Western position: the texts, read by any one of the three Western lines, deliver "and the Son".
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}\) — In John 16:14 what the Spirit takes from the Son is his being, not only his word
- (7) \(\href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}\) — The Son's sending of the Spirit rests on an eternal relation of Spirit to Son
- (8) \(\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}}\) — John 14:16 — the Son and the Spirit are two persons: "another Helper"
- (9) \(\href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}}\) — The divine persons are distinguished only by opposed relations of origin
- (10) \(\href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}\) — The Son is not from the Spirit: "which no one says"
- (11) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (12) \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (13) \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (14) \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out, John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it.
The Eastern case
From the words of John 15:26: Jesus says the Spirit proceeds from the Father, the verse speaks of eternal origin, and it names the whole of the Spirit's source.
- \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}) \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — would deny: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
wordsLine — From the Lord's words, "from the Father" (Photius)
The Eastern line from the words of John 15:26.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}}\) — John 15:26 "proceeds" speaks of the Spirit's eternal origin, not only of mission
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}\) — In John 15:26 Jesus names the Spirit's source, the Father, and no other
- (3) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}) \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue, the denial of: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
From the monarchy: the Father is the one cause of Son and Spirit, so the Spirit is not from the Son as well.
- \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}} \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — would deny: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
monarchyLine — From the monarchy of the Father (Photius, Ware)
The Eastern line from the monarchy of the Father.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}}\) — The Father is the one cause of the Son and of the Spirit
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}} \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue, the denial of: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
easternCase — From the Father alone (Photius; Ware)
The Eastern position: the texts, read by either Eastern line, exclude "and the Son".
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}}\) — John 15:26 "proceeds" speaks of the Spirit's eternal origin, not only of mission
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}\) — In John 15:26 Jesus names the Spirit's source, the Father, and no other
- (7) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}}\) — The Father is the one cause of the Son and of the Spirit
- (8) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (9) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}) \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (10) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}} \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue, the denial of: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out.
Readings, written down
The Western reading: every text, every Western reading, John 15:26 as eternal origin, and the Filioque. The verse names the Father without naming the whole of the Spirit's source. The Father is not the only cause either, as Florence holds: the Spirit "has his essence and his subsistent being from the Father together with the Son". The Pontifical Council's reading of 1995, which grants the monarchy, is a different position, not written down here.
def westernReading : Valuation Claim :=
fun a =>
match a with
| Claim.john15_26NamesTheWholeSource => False
| Claim.monarchyOfTheFather => False
| x => True
The Eastern reading, as Photius holds it: every text, John 15:26 as eternal origin and as naming the whole source, the monarchy of the Father, and no Filioque. What the Spirit takes from the Son in John 16:14 is what he declares. The Son's sending is "a temporal mission from the Son", in Ware's words, resting on no eternal relation to him. The persons are told apart by how each is from the Father, not by a relation between Son and Spirit.
def easternReading : Valuation Claim :=
fun a =>
match a with
| Claim.receivingIsOrigin => False
| Claim.missionRevealsEternalRelation => False
| Claim.distinctOnlyByOpposedRelations => False
| Claim.filioque => False
| x => True
The reading of John 15:26 as mission, Westcott's: the verse speaks of the Spirit being sent, not of where he is from eternally. Westcott notes that "from the Father" is παρά, which "expresses properly position ('from the side of'), and not source (ἐκ, 'out of')", and concludes that "the reference here is to the temporal mission of the Holy Spirit, and not to the eternal Procession" (pp. 224–225). Otherwise everything is as the Western reading has it.
def missionReading : Valuation Claim :=
fun a =>
match a with
| Claim.john15_26SpeaksOfEternalOrigin => False
| Claim.john15_26NamesTheWholeSource => False
| Claim.monarchyOfTheFather => False
| x => True
What the texts settle, and what they leave open
Grant the texts, and the Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father. This is what LST says the texts establish, and every party here grants it.
theorem lstCase_establishes : Establishes lstCase
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
LST's position can be held without contradiction.
theorem lstCase_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable lstCase.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
The texts leave the Filioque open. Granted the texts LST cites and the relation they establish, "and the Son" neither follows nor fails. The Western reading satisfies every premise with it, and the Eastern reading satisfies every premise without it.
That is LST's claim, and it holds. It is a modest claim, and cheap to prove for the same reason: no text names the Spirit's eternal origin from the Son, or denies it. What the result does show is that the dispute lives in the readings each side brings to the verses, which the chapter on weighing the positions sets against each other. It sets "and the Son" against "from the Father alone"; the "through the Son" LST names is not yet a party.
theorem texts_leave_the_filioque_open : Independent lstCase.premises (p
Claim.filioque)
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
Adding the verse Aquinas rests on leaves the question open too. With John 16:14 among the texts, "and the Son" still neither follows nor fails: the same two readings satisfy every premise. Aquinas does not say the verse states it. He says "we do find it in the sense of Scripture", and the sense is a reading, which is the Western line from John 16:14.
theorem john16_14_leaves_it_open_too : Independent
lstWithAquinassVerse.premises (p Claim.filioque)
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
The texts leave open whether John 15:26 speaks of eternal origin. Granted the texts, the reading on which "proceeds" speaks of mission satisfies every premise, and so does the reading on which it speaks of eternal origin.
That is LST's further claim, and it holds, with a reader on each side. Westcott reads the verse as mission. Aquinas and Photius both read it as eternal origin, so it is not where they divide. Their dispute is over whether the verse names the whole of the Spirit's origin, not over whether it speaks of origin at all.
theorem texts_leave_john15_26_open : Independent lstCase.premises (p
Claim.john15_26SpeaksOfEternalOrigin)
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
What each position delivers
Grant the Western position, and the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the
Son. Any one of its three lines would do (western_rests_on_no_one_reading).
theorem westernCase_establishes : Establishes westernCase
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
The Western position can be held without contradiction.
theorem westernCase_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable westernCase.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
Grant the Eastern position, and the Spirit does not proceed from the
Son. Either of its two lines would do (eastern_rests_on_no_one_reading).
theorem easternCase_establishes : Establishes easternCase
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
The Eastern position can be held without contradiction.
theorem easternCase_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable easternCase.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
What each side's case rests on
westernWithoutTheReceiving — From the Father and the Son (Aquinas; Florence; Westminster)
The Western position without its reading of John 16:14. The verse stays.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}\) — The Son's sending of the Spirit rests on an eternal relation of Spirit to Son
- (7) \(\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}}\) — John 14:16 — the Son and the Spirit are two persons: "another Helper"
- (8) \(\href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}}\) — The divine persons are distinguished only by opposed relations of origin
- (9) \(\href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}\) — The Son is not from the Spirit: "which no one says"
- (10) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (11) \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (12) \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (13) \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out, John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it.
westernWithoutTheMission — From the Father and the Son (Aquinas; Florence; Westminster)
The Western position without its reading of the Son's mission.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}\) — In John 16:14 what the Spirit takes from the Son is his being, not only his word
- (7) \(\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}}\) — John 14:16 — the Son and the Spirit are two persons: "another Helper"
- (8) \(\href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}}\) — The divine persons are distinguished only by opposed relations of origin
- (9) \(\href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}\) — The Son is not from the Spirit: "which no one says"
- (10) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (11) \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (12) \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (13) \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out, John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it.
westernWithoutTheOpposition — From the Father and the Son (Aquinas; Florence; Westminster)
The Western position without the claim that only opposed relations distinguish the persons. That the Son and the Spirit are distinct stays, and so does that the Son is not from the Spirit.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}\) — In John 16:14 what the Spirit takes from the Son is his being, not only his word
- (7) \(\href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}\) — The Son's sending of the Spirit rests on an eternal relation of Spirit to Son
- (8) \(\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}}\) — John 14:16 — the Son and the Spirit are two persons: "another Helper"
- (9) \(\href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}\) — The Son is not from the Spirit: "which no one says"
- (10) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (11) \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (12) \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (13) \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out, John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it.
westernOnTheTextsAlone — From the Father and the Son (Aquinas; Florence; Westminster)
The Western position without any of its readings: the texts, John 16:14, the distinction of Son and Spirit, that the Son is not from the Spirit, and the three Western steps with nothing to start from.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}}\) — John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}}\) — John 14:16 — the Son and the Spirit are two persons: "another Helper"
- (7) \(\href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}\) — The Son is not from the Spirit: "which no one says"
- (8) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (9) \((\href{claims.html#claim-5}{P_{5}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-7}{P_{7}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (10) \((\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-8}{P_{8}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (11) \((\href{claims.html#claim-9}{P_{9}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-10}{P_{10}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-11}{P_{11}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out, John 16:14 — the Spirit will take what is the Son's and declare it.
westernWithoutTheReceiving_is_satisfiable
The Western position without its reading of John 16:14 can be held without contradiction: the Western reading satisfies it.
theorem westernWithoutTheReceiving_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable
westernWithoutTheReceiving.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
westernWithoutTheMission_is_satisfiable
The Western position without its reading of the mission can be held.
theorem westernWithoutTheMission_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable
westernWithoutTheMission.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
westernWithoutTheOpposition_is_satisfiable
The Western position without opposed relations can be held.
theorem westernWithoutTheOpposition_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable
westernWithoutTheOpposition.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
western_rests_on_no_one_reading
The Western case rests on no one of its readings. Take away any one of the three (the reading of John 16:14, of the Son's sending, or the claim that only opposed relations distinguish the persons) and the other two lines still deliver "and the Son". So an Eastern reader who answers one Western line has not answered the case.
theorem western_rests_on_no_one_reading : Establishes
westernWithoutTheReceiving ∧ Establishes westernWithoutTheMission ∧
Establishes westernWithoutTheOpposition
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
western_needs_one_of_its_readings
It rests on the three together. Take away the three readings that divide the sides, and what is left (the texts, John 16:14, the distinction of Son and Spirit, and that the Son is not from the Spirit) does not reach "and the Son": the Eastern reading satisfies all of it.
So the Western case needs at least one of its readings, and the texts alone are not enough. That is the Western half of LST's claim, stated for the Western case's own premises.
theorem western_needs_one_of_its_readings : ¬Establishes
westernOnTheTextsAlone
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
easternWithoutTheWords — From the Father alone (Photius; Ware)
The Eastern position without its reading of the Lord's words. That John 15:26 speaks of eternal origin stays: Aquinas reads it so too.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}}\) — John 15:26 "proceeds" speaks of the Spirit's eternal origin, not only of mission
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}}\) — The Father is the one cause of the Son and of the Spirit
- (7) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (8) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}) \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (9) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}} \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue, the denial of: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out.
easternWithoutTheMonarchy — From the Father alone (Photius; Ware)
The Eastern position without the monarchy of the Father.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}}\) — John 15:26 "proceeds" speaks of the Spirit's eternal origin, not only of mission
- (6) \(\href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}\) — In John 15:26 Jesus names the Spirit's source, the Father, and no other
- (7) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (8) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}) \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (9) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}} \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue, the denial of: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out.
easternOnTheTextsAlone — From the Father alone (Photius; Ware)
The Eastern position without either of its readings.
- (1) \(\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}}\) — John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father
- (2) \(\href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}}\) — John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father
- (3) \(\href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}}\) — Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ
- (4) \(\href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}\) — Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out
- (5) \(\href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}}\) — John 15:26 "proceeds" speaks of the Spirit's eternal origin, not only of mission
- (6) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-2}{P_{2}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-3}{P_{3}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-4}{P_{4}}) \rightarrow \href{claims.html#claim-6}{P_{6}}\) — would give: The Spirit is related to the Son as well as to the Father
- (7) \((\href{claims.html#claim-1}{P_{1}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-12}{P_{12}} \land \href{claims.html#claim-13}{P_{13}}) \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- (8) \(\href{claims.html#claim-14}{P_{14}} \rightarrow \lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\)
- \(\vdash\) \(\lnot \href{claims.html#claim-15}{P_{15}}\) — at issue, the denial of: The Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father and the Son
Grounded in scripture alone: John 15:26 — the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, John 15:26; 16:7 — the Son sends the Spirit, from the Father, Galatians 4:6; Romans 8:9 — the Spirit of his Son, the Spirit of Christ, Acts 2:33 — the exalted Son receives the promised Spirit and pours him out.
easternWithoutTheWords_is_satisfiable
The Eastern position without its reading of the Lord's words can be held: the Eastern reading satisfies it.
theorem easternWithoutTheWords_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable
easternWithoutTheWords.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
easternWithoutTheMonarchy_is_satisfiable
The Eastern position without the monarchy can be held.
theorem easternWithoutTheMonarchy_is_satisfiable : Satisfiable
easternWithoutTheMonarchy.premises
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
eastern_rests_on_no_one_reading
The Eastern case rests on neither of its readings alone. Take away the reading of the Lord's words, or the monarchy of the Father, and the other line still excludes "and the Son". So a Western reader who answers one Eastern line has not answered the case.
theorem eastern_rests_on_no_one_reading : Establishes easternWithoutTheWords ∧
Establishes easternWithoutTheMonarchy
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound
eastern_needs_one_of_its_readings
It rests on the two together. Drop both readings, and the texts, with John 15:26 read as eternal origin, do not exclude "and the Son": the Western reading satisfies everything that is left. That is the Eastern half of LST's claim, stated for the Eastern case's own premises.
theorem eastern_needs_one_of_its_readings : ¬Establishes
easternOnTheTextsAlone
-- axioms: propext, Quot.sound