Weighing the readings of the order texts
Seven positions are parties to one dispute: LST, which holds only the order the texts establish; the Arians; Augustine, Athanasius and Calvin, each with his own reading of "the Father is greater than I"; Grudem and Ware, for an eternal order of authority and submission; and Giles, against it.
How to read the verdicts
One position defeats another when it denies something the other needs and does
not rest on anything rated lower. Every reading here is rated disputed, the
lowest rating, because cited readers disagree over it; so when two readings deny
each other, each defeats the other, and that is a tie. A position is forced
when it is accepted however the ties are settled. It can be defended when some
consistent way of settling them accepts it, and it is not forced when another
consistent way leaves it out. Every defeat is computed from the positions'
premises, and Lean checks each computation.
What the weighing found
LST's position is accepted at once, because nothing defeats it
(the_order_prevails): every other party holds every premise it holds.
Over the Son's divinity, the Arian reading and each Nicene reading of John 14:28
(Nicene: of the Council of Nicaea, 325, which confessed the Son of one being with
the Father) defeat each other. Calvin's reading and Augustine's defeat each other
too, because Calvin denies that the verse speaks of the Son's human nature. Every
one of these positions can be defended and none is forced, the Arian one
included (arian_reading_defensible, arian_reading_not_forced,
augustine_reading_not_forced, athanasius_reading_not_forced,
calvin_reading_not_forced). That is because the readings that answer the
Arian one are rated no higher than it. It is a finding about the five order
texts, Philippians 2:6 and four readings of one verse. LST confesses the Son's
divinity from John 1:1, 20:28 and the other texts of its next question, which
this dispute does not hear.
Over the eternal order, Grudem and Ware and Giles defeat each other, and neither
is forced (eternal_order_not_forced, equal_authority_not_forced). That agrees
with LST: the texts do not establish an eternal hierarchy. If either reading were
rated above the other, the verdict could change.
How this is checked
The positions, steps and results behind this chapter, each with the formula or the Lean that checks it
The package each party argues from.
def orderPartyNode : OrderParty → ArgumentPackage Claim :=
fun x =>
match x with
| OrderParty.lst => lstOrderCase
| OrderParty.arian => arianCase
| OrderParty.augustine => augustineCase
| OrderParty.athanasius => athanasiusCase
| OrderParty.calvin => calvinCase
| OrderParty.eternal => eternalAuthorityCase
| OrderParty.equal => equalAuthorityCase
The dispute over the order texts: every party can be held without contradiction, delivers its conclusion, and has its steps rated.
def orderDispute : Dispute Claim OrderParty :=
{ node := orderPartyNode, consistent := orderDispute._proof_1,
sound := orderDispute._proof_2,
rated := orderDispute._proof_10 }
Who defeats whom, all 49 pairs. The Arians and each of Augustine, Athanasius and Calvin defeat each other. Calvin and Augustine defeat each other as well: Calvin denies that John 14:28 speaks of the Son's human nature, which is Augustine's reading. Grudem and Ware and Giles defeat each other. Nothing attacks LST. Every cell is checked by the kernel.
theorem orderDispute_defeats : ∀ (i j : OrderParty), orderDispute.defeats i j
↔ (i, j) ∈ [(OrderParty.arian, OrderParty.augustine),
(OrderParty.augustine, OrderParty.arian), (OrderParty.arian,
OrderParty.athanasius), (OrderParty.athanasius, OrderParty.arian),
(OrderParty.arian, OrderParty.calvin), (OrderParty.calvin,
OrderParty.arian), (OrderParty.augustine, OrderParty.calvin),
(OrderParty.calvin, OrderParty.augustine), (OrderParty.eternal,
OrderParty.equal), (OrderParty.equal, OrderParty.eternal)]
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Nothing supports anything, in all 49 pairs. Every cell is checked by the kernel.
theorem orderDispute_supports : ∀ (i j : OrderParty), ¬orderDispute.supports i
j
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
LST's case is part of every other party's, since each holds the order texts and the order drawn from them. Every cell is checked by the kernel.
theorem orderDispute_partOf : ∀ (i j : OrderParty), orderDispute.partOf i j ↔
i = j ∨ (i, j) ∈ [(OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.arian), (OrderParty.lst,
OrderParty.augustine), (OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.athanasius),
(OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.calvin), (OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.eternal),
(OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.equal)]
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
The dispute over the order texts drawn: who defeats whom, and whose case is part of whose.
Solid red: defeats. Dashed green: supports. Dotted blue: one party's case is part of another's.
| # | Party |
|---|---|
| 1 | The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end |
| 2 | The Son less in divinity (the Arians) |
| 3 | Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) |
| 4 | Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) |
| 5 | The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) |
| 6 | Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) |
| 7 | No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) |
| From | To | Edge |
|---|---|---|
| 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | 3 Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) | defeats |
| 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | 4 Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) | defeats |
| 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | 5 The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) | defeats |
| 3 Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) | 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | defeats |
| 3 Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) | 5 The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) | defeats |
| 4 Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) | 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | defeats |
| 5 The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) | 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | defeats |
| 5 The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) | 3 Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) | defeats |
| 6 Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) | 7 No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) | defeats |
| 7 No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) | 6 Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) | defeats |
| 1 The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end | 2 The Son less in divinity (the Arians) | is part of |
| 1 The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end | 3 Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) | is part of |
| 1 The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end | 4 Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) | is part of |
| 1 The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end | 5 The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) | is part of |
| 1 The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end | 6 Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) | is part of |
| 1 The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end | 7 No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) | is part of |
The defeats are the cells of orderDispute_defeats, the supports the cells of orderDispute_supports and the parts the cells of orderDispute_partOf, each computed from the parties' premises and checked by the kernel. The attacks derived through support and through parts are reported, not counted: every verdict is computed from the defeats alone. Every derived attack is already a defeat.
nicene_readings_stand_with_the_eternal_order
Augustine's and Athanasius's readings can be held with Grudem and Ware's eternal order: nothing in the two forms, or in "greater" as the one the Son is from, rules it out. This does not say that Augustine or Athanasius held it. Giles reads them as denying it, and Augustine writes that the Son "was not sent in virtue of some disparity of power or substance" (On the Trinity IV.20.27, as Grudem quotes it).
theorem nicene_readings_stand_with_the_eternal_order :
orderDispute.StandTogether [OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.augustine,
OrderParty.athanasius, OrderParty.eternal]
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
nicene_readings_stand_with_giles
They can be held with Giles's denial of it too. So the two Nicene readings of John 14:28 take no side in the second question.
theorem nicene_readings_stand_with_giles : orderDispute.StandTogether
[OrderParty.lst, OrderParty.augustine, OrderParty.athanasius,
OrderParty.equal]
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
What the dispute decides
LST's position is accepted at once, because nothing defeats it. No other position can be added to it, because each is defeated by a rival that nothing already accepted answers.
What the dispute forces is exactly The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end.
- Stage 1: The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end.
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end is defeated by nothing.
- Nothing else is forced:
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and nothing forced defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), and nothing forced defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), and nothing forced defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), and nothing forced defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), and nothing forced defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles).
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), and nothing forced defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware).
What this rests on. The reasons state 6 defeats and 11 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
What the order texts establish is forced, and nothing more: a real order of Father and Son in the work of salvation. Nothing defeats it, because every party holds every premise it holds. It says nothing about the Son's divinity or about whether the order is eternal; on both, every position is in a tie.
theorem the_order_prevails : Framework.grounded orderDispute.defeats =
Solver.toSet [OrderParty.lst]
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, the Arian reading defeats each Nicene reading that defeats it.
The Son less in divinity (the Arians) is accepted on some resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) can be held.
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius).
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin).
What this rests on. The reasons state 6 defeats and 11 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
On the order texts alone, the Arian reading can be defended: some consistent way of settling the dispute accepts it. That is because the readings that answer it, Augustine's, Athanasius's and Calvin's, are rated no higher than it, so each answers the other and none is chosen. It does not say the reading is likely, or that the Son is less than the Father. The texts that say the Son is God, John 1:1 and 20:28 among them, are not heard here.
theorem arian_reading_defensible : Framework.CredulouslyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.arian
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Augustine's and Athanasius's readings, held together, each defeat the Arian one.
The Son less in divinity (the Arians) is not accepted on every resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) can be held, and it holds Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine); Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) conflicts with The Son less in divinity (the Arians): Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin).
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
What this rests on. The reasons state 5 defeats and 18 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
The Arian reading is not forced. One consistent way of settling the dispute, which can take in no further position, holds Augustine's and Athanasius's readings, and the Arian one cannot join them.
theorem arian_reading_not_forced : ¬Framework.SkepticallyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.arian
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with Athanasius's, Augustine's reading defeats both the Arian reading and Calvin's, the two that defeat it.
Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) is accepted on some resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) can be held.
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin).
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
What this rests on. The reasons state 5 defeats and 18 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Augustine's reading can be defended, with Athanasius's.
theorem augustine_reading_defensible : Framework.CredulouslyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.augustine
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, the Arian reading defeats Augustine's.
Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) is not accepted on every resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) can be held, and it holds The Son less in divinity (the Arians); The Son less in divinity (the Arians) conflicts with Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine): The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), and Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius).
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin).
What this rests on. The reasons state 6 defeats and 11 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Augustine's reading is not forced: the Arian reading, rated no lower, leaves it out of one consistent settlement.
theorem augustine_reading_not_forced : ¬Framework.SkepticallyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.augustine
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Athanasius's reading defeats the Arian one, the only reading that defeats it.
Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) is accepted on some resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) can be held.
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), and Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
What this rests on. The reasons state 2 defeats and 13 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Athanasius's reading can be defended. It can be held with Augustine's and with Calvin's, which cannot be held with each other.
theorem athanasius_reading_defensible : Framework.CredulouslyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.athanasius
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, the Arian reading defeats Athanasius's.
Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) is not accepted on every resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) can be held, and it holds The Son less in divinity (the Arians); The Son less in divinity (the Arians) conflicts with Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius): The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), and Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius).
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin).
What this rests on. The reasons state 6 defeats and 11 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Athanasius's reading is not forced, for the same reason as Augustine's.
theorem athanasius_reading_not_forced : ¬Framework.SkepticallyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.athanasius
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with Athanasius's, Calvin's reading defeats both the Arian reading and Augustine's, the two that defeat it.
The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) is accepted on some resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) can be held.
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), and The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), and The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), and The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
What this rests on. The reasons state 5 defeats and 18 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Calvin's reading can be defended, with Athanasius's, and not with Augustine's, whose reading of the verse it denies.
theorem calvin_reading_defensible : Framework.CredulouslyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.calvin
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, the Arian reading defeats Calvin's.
The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) is not accepted on every resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) can be held, and it holds The Son less in divinity (the Arians); The Son less in divinity (the Arians) conflicts with The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin): The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), and The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians).
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine).
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius).
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin) defeats The Son less in divinity (the Arians), and The Son less in divinity (the Arians) defeats The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin).
What this rests on. The reasons state 6 defeats and 11 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Calvin's reading is not forced: the Arian reading leaves it out of one consistent settlement, and so does Augustine's.
theorem calvin_reading_not_forced : ¬Framework.SkepticallyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.calvin
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, the eternal order defeats Giles's denial of it, the one position that defeats it.
Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) is accepted on some resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) can be held.
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), and Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles).
What this rests on. The reasons state 2 defeats and 13 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
Grudem and Ware's eternal order can be defended.
theorem eternal_order_defensible : Framework.CredulouslyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.eternal
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, Giles's denial defeats the eternal order.
Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) is not accepted on every resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) can be held, and it holds No eternal subordination in authority (Giles); No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) conflicts with Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware): No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), and Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles).
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), and No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware).
What this rests on. The reasons state 2 defeats and 13 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
The eternal order is not forced: Giles's position can be held with LST's, and it rules the eternal order out.
theorem eternal_order_not_forced : ¬Framework.SkepticallyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.eternal
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
Held with LST's position, Giles's denial defeats the eternal order, the one position that defeats it.
No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) is accepted on some resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) can be held.
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), and No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware).
What this rests on. The reasons state 2 defeats and 13 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
Giles's position can be defended: held with LST's, it answers Grudem and Ware's position, which is the only one that attacks it.
theorem equal_authority_defensible : Framework.CredulouslyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.equal
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound
equalAnsweredByTheEternalOrder
Held with LST's position, the eternal order defeats Giles's denial.
No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) is not accepted on every resolution.
- A position holding The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) can be held, and it holds Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware); Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) conflicts with No eternal subordination in authority (Giles): Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), and No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware).
- None of The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats another, and each attack on them is answered from among them:
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles) defeats Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), and Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware) defeats No eternal subordination in authority (Giles).
What this rests on. The reasons state 2 defeats and 13 absences of defeat, each a cell of the defeat table, orderDispute_defeats, computed from the two parties' premises and checked by the kernel. Whether an attack survives turns on the attacker's weakest link and on the rating of what it attacks, so a changed rating can change the verdict. The weakest links:
- Eternal authority and submission (Grudem, Ware), weakest at disputed:
- The sending and obeying are the outworking of an eternal authority and submission — Grudem 2015, p. 40; Grudem 2016; Ware 2005
- No eternal subordination in authority (Giles), weakest at disputed:
- Eternal subordination in authority would deny the Son's equality in power — Giles 2008, p. 323; Giles 2006
- The order texts: the Son sent, obedient, and subject at the end, weakest at well supported:
- an inference step — Kibbey 2026, §3, The Triune God
- The Son less in divinity (the Arians), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 "greater" means the Son is less in his divinity — Schaff and Wace 1892, §De Synodis 28; Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14; Calvin 1847, p. 102
- Equal in nature, less in the form of a servant (Augustine), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 the Son is less in the form of a servant, not in the form of God — Schaff 1887, §On the Trinity I.7.14
- Greater as the one he is from (Athanasius), weakest at disputed:
- The Father is "greater" as the one the Son is begotten from — Schaff and Wace 1892, §Against the Arians I.13.58
- The Mediator's state, not his natures (Calvin), weakest at disputed:
- In John 14:28 Christ compares his humbled state as Mediator with his glory — Calvin 1847, pp. 102–103
Giles's position is not forced either. Between it and the eternal order the dispute chooses neither, as LST says the texts do not.
theorem equal_authority_not_forced : ¬Framework.SkepticallyAccepted
orderDispute.defeats OrderParty.equal
-- axioms: propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound